When the show really jumped the shark.
Listening back to the 2000s and it is my opinion that yes the show started getting bad around the time that Artie left and ETM died but I found it really started going downhill when Steve Langford left. I never really noticed until Listening to shows after he quit and man the dip in quality and content he brought is noticeable. Leiberman was terrible. He definitely doesn't get enough credit. Every news report and segment involving Steve is a banger.