Why are these conversations still ongoing ?

I simply don't believe the theist position has any logical grounds to stand on , I think even the fact that we're presenting this matter as something that's worth debating is a failure on our end . These things aren't things worth discussing. To me it's effectively the matter of a flat earther , they shouldn't have a platform to begin with unless they can present a reasonable case and justify why the topic itself is something even worth talking about in an even remotely intellectual space.